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Monday, September 9, 2013

Ateneo to ask UAAP to look into "violations" of suspended players



9 September 2013


Fr Maximino D. Rendon, CM
President, UAAP Season 76


Dear Fr. Rendon:

It has been brought to our attention that University of the East (UE) player Ralf Olivares was seen seated behind the UE bench at the Mall of Asia Arena yesterday, 8th September 2013, during the men’s basketball game between the Ateneo de Manila Blue Eagles and the UE Red Warriors.

Given that Ralf Olivares had been issued a one-game suspension by the UAAP 76 Commissioner Chito Loyzaga, a suspension that he was supposed to serve yesterday, his presence behind the UE bench during yesterday’s game time is a violation of UAAP 76 Rules and Regulations, which under “Sanctions” says:

“a suspended athlete shall not be allowed to sit in the bench and its immediate vicinity during the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended athlete was found present”.

In view of this, the Ateneo de Manila University (AdMU) respectfully requests that the UAAP 76 Board conduct an investigation of this matter and that the appropriate sanctions be imposed in accordance with the UAAP 76 Rules and Regulations.

In addition to the foregoing incident, we would like to seek clarification as well on the following games, among others, where suspended players were likewise seen in the immediate vicinity at times when they should have been serving a suspension:

·               25th August 2013, UAAP 76, Match #40 between UE and Far Eastern University (FEU) where RR Garcia was seen in the immediate vicinity of the FEU bench;

·               31st August 2013, UAAP 76, Match #44 between UE and National University (NU) where Charles Mammie and Lord Casajeros were seen in the immediate vicinity of the UE bench;

·               1st September 2013, UAAP Season 76, Match #46 between AdMU and De La Salle University where Thomas Torres was seen sitting on the DLSU bench and the immediate vicinity of the bench

·               4th September 2013, UAAP Season 76, Match #48 between UE and DLSU where Lord Casajeros was seen in the immediate vicinity of the UE bench.

Please also look into similar violations in games of the Juniors’ and Women’s Basketball Divisions.

We thank you for this opportunity to be heard and are hopeful for an outcome that would ultimately be favorable to the UAAP and its ideals.



Very truly yours,




RICHARD N PALOU
UAAP Board Member (AdMU)



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131 comments:

  1. So what now UE? You still wanna pursue your protest? Bo is technically not an athlete lol. He's the coach. Wow, so that means may chance ma-forfeit yong Dlsu win vs Ateneo, cool!

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    1. sa athlete lang yan na rule, iba pa sa coahces. tska may 24-hour protest rule, tanga. forfeiture lang ata chance nyo manalao against dlsu eh, sira.

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    2. .The presence of a suspended coach, manager, assistant manager, statistician, scorers, masseurs, etc. and those listed as members of the team shall not be allowed in the bench or venue dining the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended team official or member was found present. STUPID!!!

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    3. Gunggong!! Iba ang rule sa coaches/official sa athlete. Ang athlete, bawal lang sa bench pero ang coach, bawal mismo sa venue!! At kahit sabihin natin may mali.. e hindi kayo nagprotesta agad within the 24 hour period!! Malas niyo lang.. nagprotesta UE within 24 hourd. And coach Bo, being inside the dugout, is a clear violation of the rule!!

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    4. You can site all those instances where suspended players are at the venue but the thing is the 24 hour rule does apply. If wala naman nagprotesta during those games hindi naman take into action ng Uaap Board yan. Nagkataon nagprotesta ang UE so the UAAP Board should stick to their rule book. Does it even say in the rule book that UAAP Board members can amend that rule?

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    5. La Salista itong Anonymous na name caller na ito...site daw lol
      Like you can't "accessed" Perkins an unsportsmanlike...hoy wag nyo dalhin ditto kabobohan nyo!!!

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    6. One Big Fight! Suspend everyone and declare the Ateneo Champion! Six Peat!

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    7. sige daanin nyo na lang sa protesta.. baka maging champion ulit kayo.. go go go

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    8. 6peat? DREAMERS! -_-

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    9. Please, put the rule that says, teams are only given 24 hours to file a protest. I'm not sure if there are any precedents, but so far, there is none that says that. Otherwise, Mr. Ricky Palou would have known, thus not prompting him to file a letter. He wouldn't submit a letter if he had known that there is a rule that says teams can only file a protest within 24 hours.

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    10. Yung chance lang ng Ateneo na hindi mag 6 peat ay kung magprotesta kayo ng magprotesta! MGA TAKOT SA ATENEO!

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    11. Haha. Asa naman. E ateneo nga tong protesta ng protesta. Pati uaap board rep ng dlsu ipapatanggal pa. Kung protesta lang ang maghihinder sa 6 peat ng ateneo. E di sana number 1 team kayo sa standings ngayon and not fighting for your life.

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  2. “The presence of a suspended coach, manager, assistant manager, statistician, scorers, masseurs, etc. and those listed as members of the team shall not be allowed in the bench or venue during the period of suspension.”

    or

    "a suspended athlete shall not be allowed to sit in the bench and its immediate vicinity during the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended athlete was found present"

    so which one is written on the (inexistent) rulebook huh?

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    1. Both? One is for player suspensions and the other is for non-player suspensions

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  3. Medyo malabo talaga yung "immediate vicinity" ng UAAP. Pwedeng sabihin na nasa Patron si Olivares at wala naman sa ringside. Pero wala namang mafoforfeit na win ang UE kasi talo naman sila sa game kung saan nakita si Olivares, unless gagawing win ang talo ng UE vs Ateneo for that game. Pero sa kaso ng Ateneo, malinaw na bawal sa venue si Perasol. Dapat wala talaga siya doon. Ang hindi ko magets ay kung paano nabigyan si Perasol ng go signal na makapunta sa game kahit nasa rules naman na dapat wala siya sa venue. Palakasan?! Oo wala siya sa bench, pero nasa dug out daw siya. Mahirap tuloy sabihin na hindi naman siya nagcoach sa game na iyon.

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    1. The rules say forfeiture of the game, not forfeiture of the win. Win or lose, a violation warrants forfeiture.

      Also, I can't recall this properly, but wasn't Olivares' seat near the bench? Patron nga pero nasa likod lang rin naman ng bench ng UE. "Immediate vicinity" rin yun, assuming my memory of his seat is correct.

      What about Thomas Torres? Same case with Olivares, but this time he even went to the court to cheer with his team after the game. Wag mong sabihin hindi yun violation?

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    2. So labanan na to ng technicalities?? BOBO KA BA?

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    3. hindi siya bobo. pinapalabas lang niya, at ni ricky palou na dapat consistent ang pagtawag sa violations sa uaap. kung may maling ginawa ateneo in line with those rules, may mali rin ginawa yung ibang teams. patas lang na lahat sampahan ng forfeiture. labanan nga ng technicalities. ikaw yung bobo.

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    4. Tama! And assuming labanan nga yun ng technicalities, ang hustisoya may two sides. Procedural and substantive, so sino daw ang bobo? Haha

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    5. "Oo wala siya sa bench, pero nasa dug out daw siya. Mahirap tuloy sabihin na hindi naman siya nagcoach sa game na iyon."

      -> Meron naman cellphone, skype, chat, etc. Kahit nasa bahay yung tao, pwedeng-pwedeng magcoach or contact indirectly. So parang wala talagang point kung nasa lugar or hindi yung coach sa case na ito. Ano, kinausap lang niya yung players biglang lumakas shooting nila? Coaching is a strategic ACTIVE job that requires decisions on the fly. So a pep talk in the locker room is not a factor to the win as it was to having other suspended players behind the bench. Then again lahat may mali at lahat desperado na haha

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  4. Sana tangal Ateneo sa final four. try nila protest din yun. Go USTe!

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    1. Sana tanggal din kayo. kailangan niyo pa kampi mga ref. bulok style mo.

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    2. Nanunuod ka ba? Kelan pa kumampi ang refs sa mga schools except sa ADMU, DLSU, at NU? TANGA

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    3. hahaha ADMU, DLSU, NU. sama mo n FEU!! mga ungas!

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    4. wala kang karapatan mag Go USTE kung mambabasag ka lang ng ibang UNI. Hindi ganyan ang Tomasino, nakakahiya ka

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  5. What about Thomas Torres? Same case with Olivares, but this time he even went to the court to cheer with his team after the game. Wag mong sabihin hindi yun violation?

    Suspension was effective during the game. Not after!

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    1. violation yun, pero may nag file ba ng complaint within the 24 hour period? wala diba? so anong ipaglalaban naten?

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    2. kaya nga precednets tawag doon. gnawa lang ng ateneo kung ano ang Gawain ng ibang schools. may nag protest so open yon can now. gets mo. Rules apply regardless. if the borad upholds the forgeiture, Ateneo will complain and Dlsu loses. ok ba?

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    3. Mali! paano naging precedent ang player eh ang kaso ay tungkol sa coach. Talino talaga ng mga atenista. baluktot ang rason.

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    4. Wala pa rin bearing yun dahil nag-lapse na ang time so pwede protest nalang ay Sept. 8

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  6. Everybody is guilty, no doubt, but Mr. Palou's complaint will only make matters worse as it is obviously in retaliation to the earlier action taken by UE. There's really no genuine concern for the faithful adherence to the rules and even simpletons will not be fooled into thinking otherwise. He should, at all times, remember that he represents a community with more sophistication and it is imperative that he acts accordingly!

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    1. as far as i can remember eto ang sabi sa news update

      "A league official said UE has asked the UAAP board to look......."

      at et0

      "Officials have confirmed that UE has already written the league seeking an investigation into the incident, with an eye on filing a protest if there are sufficient grounds for a forfeiture."

      an alleged letter written by u.e., confirmed by the officials but actually doesn't have an/any evidence of this said complaint letter then 24hrs hasn't been expired after this news ADMU filed a counter complain which made public of the same grounds...Y?

      so defensive? so afraid? so threatened to be stripped of of their win?

      just a thought... :) and yes he should act in a more sophisticated way according to the community he represents...

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    2. Kaya nagtataka ka pa nag to-top ng bar ang Ateneo? Meron ba law sa UE at La Salle? Kung mero halos inexistent. Unahan lang yan mga ungas!

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  7. Aminin na lang kasi ng UAAP na magulo rules, kailangan i-review at kailangan na rin palitan. Kalokohan naman to eh. Hindi na patas para sa lahat. Ma-politika lang magiging dating ng katapusan nito.

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  8. Ang role ng players is to play at ang role ng coach is to coach. Kaya mas masahol dapat sa coach kasi kapag nandun siya pwede pa rin siya magcoach eh ang player wala namang magagawa yan.

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    1. Rules are rules mga gunggung!

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  9. Is this for real? Palou sent the letter dated September 9, 2013? What do you expect to accomplish Ricky? You are an embarrassment . Did you do this on your own? In panic?

    You need to LEARN the rules...pay particular attention to the 24-hour prescription period. You made a BIG mistake, man-up!

    You look like a drowning man trying to take down with you anyone within arm's length when the bigger man would be saving them.

    Fr. Jett, pls. step in and end this madness. The honorable thing to do is to admit it If DLSU was able to admit their mistake, return a basketball championship trophy and survive a one-year ban on all sports(unjustified if I may say so), all the more an admission is expected from ADMU. It's the Lux in Domino thing!




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    1. JJ Atayde is that you?

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    2. No JJ here, just a member of AHS UAAP '80 Champion team. What's it to you?

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    3. The saint is trolling now forums and blogs like these now that his own is closed lol

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    4. who's the troll? you have no idea....here's one for you. Facundo was our center. Still can't tell I'm for real....try googling it. Let's see if you even get his first name right.

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    5. ahs 80 daw. baka naman bumagsak sa physics yan at nag transfer ng la sale (o pinirata) kaya bilib na bilib sa la sale. klala ni panlilio yan, yong right hand ni mvp, kung tutoo ang sinasabe.

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    6. That't the kind of Atenean I remember, good to see may ganyan pa. Just for clarification, I'm from the green side of things

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    7. ^ the kind of Atenean you remember is self-righteous, talks in a condescending manner, and rude. I'm from the blue side but it's sad some people have to be so snarky when they don't have to be. Despite these AdMU stereotypes, I guess you'll still find these kind of people everywhere.

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    8. You just described yourself....'snarky'....LOL.

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    9. snarky people deserve snarky responses. there was precedent to be snide. and it's not even half as bad as what Mr. AHS said. LOL at you.

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  10. AGREE^ UAAP must look at spirit of the rule. If Bo merely watched at venue then no issue. If he talked/coached the team at the half then it becomes a different story. According reports before he went to the court to congratulate Coach sandy he stayed at the locker room the whole time.I would assume nag coach siya nung halftime? I mean ano gagawin niya dun diba? Pag player ka ok lang manood the main reason is for you not to play! Basta hindi maglaro nasatisfy naman yung essence ng suspension diba?

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    1. “a suspended athlete shall not be allowed to sit in the bench and its immediate vicinity during the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended athlete was found present”.

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  11. Eto nalang isspin niyo guys. Yung pag suspend ng player primary reason nyan is for them not to play! Kahit nandun sila wala parin sila magagawa. Ang coach pag nasuspend primary reason is for them not to coach! Ehh pag nandun naman sila sa venue pwedeng pwedeng pa mag sabi ng instructions yan!lalo na pag nasa likod lang ng bench or malapit sa bench lalo na nasa locker room pa pala! SMH! Essence of the rule ang isipin!

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  12. Nahabol naman po ung 24-hour prescription period ah.

    He did not denied UE's argument, he just raised that others also violated the rules.

    The ADMU win is still theirs kasi cancelled out ung violations ng UE and ADMU, what will suffer is the twice to beat of DSLU and FEU.

    HE just stood out for the school.

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    1. lol yong mga la salistang pulpol na palakpak ng palkpak sa MOa noong humahabol ang UE siguro nag-instigate ng violation (Sila kase muntikan pa sa UE lol). noong na point ang ginawa nila noong ateneo game lol, biglang napag-isip-isip. honga no. mas makakasama sa atin ito lol. Kaya wala kayong law eh. bobo kayo sa teknikalidad. alam lang nilang I-break eh mga teknikalidad na mag me merit ng forfeiture ng games at championship lol. yong bang kadayaan. lol

      galing ng Ateneo di lang sa game pati sa law eh hehe. kung nga naman I-forfeit mo win, then dapat I-forfeit mo rin yong Feu and dlsu wins o ano board? tingnan natin ang integrity nyo. No one needs to protest. someone just has to point that a rule has been broken.

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    2. No he SHAMED the school!

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    3. And that's all you gotta say for your cross examination and rebuttal? I object. The counselor has nothing relevant to say.

      Judge(mental): Sustained. and Sustagen for your brain

      lol

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    4. Walang LAW? ikaw ata HINDI nag AARAL eh hahahaha

      Mayroong COLLEGE of LAW ang DLSU at UE

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    5. ah meron ba? srry di obvious. eh meron ba kayong nag-graduate don lol

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    6. Doon masarap mag coach kung meron bball teams yon mga yon. Kase walang babatikos sa iyo pag nagtatalo ka. Kase wala naman alumni doon eh lol

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  13. baka naman habol lang nila dito eh yung kay thomas torres para mabawasan panalo ng dlsu?? para di halata na sila ang gumaganti sa dlsu. kasi its a bit odd na aangal ue eh isa sa malapit sa admu yan. remember, the uaap boaud decision is made by ONLY 1 person and that is Montinola, who consults with Palou. the rest are just puppets. UE, UST ADu.

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    1. It already passed the 24-hour prescription period ah. Nagbabasa ka ba?

      Tama eto:
      He did not denied UE's argument, he just raised that others also violated the rules.

      If the board will consider the forfeitures of the listed violations prior to last Sunday, then FEU and DLSU hopes are in danger.

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    2. Nakakahiya nman sa DLSU mo kung puppets kami -- UST :)

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    3. Hay.

      To 12:31am:

      Wala nang kinalaman ang nagung games ng Ateneo sa La Salle and FEU kahit mag protest pa ang Ateneo. I think you're not aware that a protest should be filed within 24-48 hours after ng contested game.

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  14. Ganito lang yan, ust, dlsu, AT LEAST DI KAMI NALULUNOD SA BAHA! #AdMU

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    1. Sigurado ka, ang katipunan lumulubog, eh mismo sa loob ng Ateneo bumabaha. Sa High School...sa Grade School Fermin hall eh bumabaha. Mas lalo na pag-talo sa DLSU bumabaha ng luha.

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    2. Kelangan ng baha sa Ateneo para mamatay naman kahit minsan ang walang katapusang bonfire^^

      Ust at La sale? makapagsisimula ba kayo ng bonfire nyo lol ang tagal tagal na rin ha. kaso (original) bahain din kayo kaya di nyo kayang magsindi. Yong sa Feu, dinuraan ni Bringas lol kaya ayun, namatay. Ang NU pag nag bonfire this year, bato ang pangsindi kase panahon pa ata ng nasa kweba pa tao noong huling championship nila eh lol

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  15. I am a lasallian and i would love for ateneo and lasalle to be in the finals (no offense to the other schools lol) but it annoys me to no end when ateneans who repost this act as if they just played an awesome hand to bring down everyone else. It's like saying "hey the players (who, lets just put things in perspective, are mostly kids, theyre students) have been violating the rules so why cant our coach do the same?" Im not saying being a student makes it an excuse to break the rules. It's not. Everyone must respect the rules. In this case being a player and sitting in the patron section and not playing is different from being a coach and sitting in the dugout and lol what? Not coaching? I mean come on. In my opinion, bo perasol has caused too much ruckus already for ateneo.

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    1. eto nga ung rule kuya sa athletes:

      “a suspended athlete shall not be allowed to sit in the bench and its immediate vicinity during the period of suspension. A violation of the condition of the suspension shall result in the forfeiture of the game where such suspended athlete was found present”.

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    2. Oh im not defending the players who might have violated the said rule. But "immediate vicinity" is rather subjective. Sitting in the patron section might count as being outside "immediate vicinity" coz the term is so contestable vs say 10m from the bench. If they violated the rule, and the board sees it fit to forfeit the games then i respect that. I just dont think it was a good move by ateneo.
      Btw, dont call me kuya. Di kita kapatid lol di rin ako lalaki.

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    3. Lol im not arguing with you coz you dont get my point. And dont call me kuya coz im not your brother. Also, im not male.

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    4. I agree with@ibleedgreen. And feel ko magulo talaga yungrule about the vicinity. #Neutral

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    5. @ibleedgreen: Thomas Torres was sitting on the bench. If that's not the immediate vicinity, then I don't know what is. :P

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  16. Tama may yung hunirit dito ng procedural (remedial) at substantive justice, but I want to point out na:
    1. On the substantive side, walang locus standi yung Ateneo para UE-NU, UE-FEU, at UE-DLSU games. Hindi kayo involved dun, so walang karapatan nyo na-violate. You can only protest things directly done to you. This is a substantive right, the right to sue, unfortunately you cannot invoke somebody else's right in your favor; and
    2. On the procedural side, assuming without conceding that Ateneo does have locus standdi, the complaint still cannot be given due course because it was filed out of time and, in any event, Ateneo is estopped by laches. The protest period is clear: 24 hours. All of these complaints are beyond the reglementary period. Fault ng Ateneo yan na hindi kayo naging vigilant, at merit ng UE yan na sila vigilant enough to protest on time. Also, may laches na dito: Ateneo's failur to protest immediately, in law, means they are waiving their right to do so, if any.

    Sorry. It sucks that Ateneo has to go through this controversy. If they indeed asked for permission from the UAAP for Coach Bo, dapat sana in writing, parang incontrovertible. And, wala ng sense na iaangal nila yung sa iba ngayon, kasi ang mali ng iba ay never mag-e-excuse ng mali nila. Hindi naman to selective prosecution, kasi noon, wala naman umangal nung may panahon pang umangal. Malas lang Ateneo na yung UE, in-exercise nila yung pagkakataon nilang umangal within the period allowed.

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    1. "Malas lang Ateneo na yung UE, in-exercise nila yung pagkakataon nilang umangal within the period allowed" - meaning they couldn't take it that they lost so they went looking for other ways to win. UE will never write such a complaint if they won the game. *Sigh*. Regardless of the outcome of all these.. it's a shame that such a good game was tainted by "technicalities".

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    2. "PROTEST ON ELIGIBILITY
      Protest on player's eligibility shall be presented in writing to the Chairperson of the Eligibility Committee and any Board Member of the University being protested against, anytime from the start of competition up to the end of the first round.

      The eligibility of an athlete may no longer be questioned twenty-four (24) hours before the start of the second round, except in cases where there has been negligence on the part of the Member University, as determined by the Board."

      http://www.inboundpass.com/uaap70/uaap-rules-and-regulations/

      The 24-hour period is only for eligibility protests, not for games won or lost.

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    3. Wrong rules. It is not an eligibility issue.

      The 24-hour protest rule is the standard.

      Here's an example:"UST to protest loss to Ateneo, but UAAP commissioner has yet to receive complaint
      JOB B. DE LEON, GMA News September 16, 2012 2:41pm

      The University of Santo Tomas Growling Tigers plan to protest their Saturday loss against the Ateneo de Manila Blue Eagles, but UAAP commissioner Ato Badolato said he still has yet to receive a formal complaint from the Tigers’ camp, as of writing.

      Teams must file a protest within 24 hours of the game, according to UAAP rules."

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  17. wow all of a sudden daming nakita ni Palou, kung hindi pa mapupuna yung violation ni Bo ay hindi pa gagawin itong letter na'to.. what a hypocrite!

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  18. Grabe, lutong luto na ang ibang UAAP Teams. Bakit ba laging panig sa Ateneo? To think na ADMU ang pinaka baby sa lahat ng teams. Takteng yan.

    Nakakasuka na yung Season 76.
    Bakit hindi na lang ibigay yung trophy sa Ateneo?

    Is it worth celebrating kung alam mong sa ganito mananalo?

    Super luto na. Super duper LUTO!

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    1. Bakit laging panig sa Ateneo kamo? Eh sino ba ang broadcaster ABS-CBN diba. Yung mga boss ng ABS-CBN nakikita mo naman sa games, naka blue at cheering for Ateneo. Si Montinola eh Atenista din, kaya nga ang FEU ay parang sister team.

      Dami pa kasing Moro-Moro para sa trophy. Haaaay pati basketball parang politika ng bansa. Sa bagay puro Atenista kasi ang nagpapatakbo.

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    2. tama ka jan.. nagchampion lang nman ateneo nung hinawakan na ng abscbn uaap.. naalala nyo pa siguro nung unang nagchampion ateneo kulang nalang magartista lahat ng players nila lumalabas sa mga shows ng abs lol..

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    3. Yung La Salle rin naman eh! Sa tingin niyo hindi napagod yung mga Atenista kapapanood ng mga Lasalistang yon sa TV? SIYEMPRE NAIRITA RIN KAMI!

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    4. MAYABANG KAMI KASI MARAMI KAMING PUWEDENG IPAGYABANG!!!!

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  19. Hahahaha. Ateneo desperado. nandadamay pa. Hoping to win over dlsu over the boardroom? Oh c'mon. forever panggulo kasi yan coach nyo. Puro lang kayo yabang.

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    1. Oo mayabang kami. Pero hindi LANG yabang. may 5 peat din kami.

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    2. Poor ateneans. Cge lang. Keep on savoring that 5peat. Dahil baka 500 years pa bago maulit yun. Kawawa naman kayo sa past glory nalang nagddwell kasi obviously dark ages nyo na.

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  20. If decisions turn out to be in favor of ateneo. Alam na talaga. I guess it should be better for all other teams to just boycott and leave ateneo alone together with the commissioner and suck that championship up na kinababaliwan nila. After all the uaap board will do all just to pave way to ateneo!

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  21. Kung ipinasa ng Ateneo ang petition after 4 pm of September 9,2013 eh hindi talaga pasok yung sa 24-hour petition. However, if they passed the petition early in the morning of September 9,2013 eh pasok yun sa 24-hour period nila kasi ang game between UE and ADMU is September 8,2013 at 2 pm nagstart yung game.

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  22. Can anyone here cite the UAAP rulebook regarding this 24-hour protest deadline?

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  23. Man for others? Lol! SMH

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  24. The 24 hour rule is irrelevant in the case of Ateneo's letter, because it is not a formal protest. What the Ateneo is doing is raising a question about the general laxity in the interpretation and implementation of the rule on suspensions during the whole season, and possibly even in previous seasons. So this is not an issue of legal technicalities anymore, but of fairness, because if the board were to apply the rule strictly in this case, it should apply it across all cases where the same violation occurred. Otherwise, only one school is being targeted.

    Decide the championship in the hardcourt, not in the boardroom!

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    1. Do you think it would be "fair" if the other games stated in the ateneo clarification letter will be forfeited as well? Well at least put your self in the shoes of the other teams involved. The problem with invoking concepts such as fairness and justice is that these two are often abstract and intangible concepts. As much as one would not want to use legal technicalities, such exist for a reason. Most of the time applying the rules strictly would cause more injustice than justice.

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    2. So can the UAAP return the 1991 Championship to DLSU then?

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    3. Preach :)

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    4. The problem is one of arbitrariness and selectivity if the rule is suddenly implemented strictly in the case of Bo and not with the other violations (including that of Olivares in the very same game).

      That is why the Ateneo letter is meant to put some sense into the issue. Do you really want this decided by technicalities in the boardroom rather than in the basketball court? Actually someone has done the math, and if the rule on suspensions and sanctions were to be implemented strictly, Ateneo would emerge as no. 1 in the standings (see hoopnut.com). He he. Is that what UE (and other instigators of this "clarification") really want?

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  25. There will always be an excuse, for every failure.

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    1. Well yes, it was UE which lost the game.

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    2. and Coach Bo broke the rules, with permission from Ateneo team management. Now you have a choice, behave like a true Atenean...or an Ateneo basketball fanatic.

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  26. Hindi isyu rito yung 24-hour protest rule. Parang isyu yan ng eligibility. Wala namang 24-hour rule doon. Kung madiskubre na nagpalaro ka ng player na wala naman palang high school diploma, forfeit lahat yung laro na nandun yung players na yun, pati championship, kung mapatunayang may pandaraya. Malamang suspendido ka pa.

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  27. Isuspend niyo na lahat ng pwedeng isuspend at kunin na natin lahat ng pwede natin kunin na panalo through protest. Ito nalang talaga ang pag asa natin para makuha yung six-peat. OBF!

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  28. Let all the stupid schools rant their empty brains out. blah blah blah filled with unthought of arguments. UP supports Ateneo in all counts of justice. When there are good counter rebuttals, justice is served. OMNIA SUPRA RATIO!

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  29. I think this is a bit biased. Yes. Rules are rules. Kasi if this is the case then dapat balikan lahat ng uaap games. Not only this season. Further, mas maganda naman tignan na nanalo ang isang team dahil nanalo sila s game kaysa sa forfeiture.

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  30. Is there a 24 hour rule written? What exactly does it say?

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  31. Bakit parating may conspiracy kapag Ateneo? I mean, look at Ateneo's track record versus other schools? Let the teams battle it out on court. We are all in agreement that all we want is to witness a great game! We can't avoid bad calls because it is all part of the game. Kaya nga may term na breaks of the game.

    Sayang naman kasi for the first time in so many years na medyo maganda ang labanan. Anyone can one! Basketball na lang pls!

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  32. Sobrang pa-cool ng mga tao dito. Daming alam sa batas! May locus standi, procedural/substantive due process, and laches pa! Super idols hahaha

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    1. are you saying people should dumb down their arguments then? pity.

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    2. are you saying people should dumb down their arguments then? it's a pity some people don't appreciate other people's critical thinking. we might as well throw education down the drain.

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    3. pity some people confuse biased and baseless opinionating with critical thinking.

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    4. if you read the specific comment with said "pa cool" words that anon 1:07 was referring to, then you'd notice it was actually saying Ateneo was at a disadvantage, even at fault. The commenter was already throwing out his bias (that's if he's even from admu) and looking at things at an objective stand point. What were you saying again? Maybe you should read and understand the context before you get excited with posting such a "witty" comment. Pity.

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  33. Why dont we wait for the decision of the board (period)? Surely, Ateneo does not have to prove anything?

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  34. sows.. ginawa lng to ng UE kc gusto nila manalo sa ibng paraan.. takam na takam sa final four ehh.. edi sa inyo na! bket magiging champion ba kayo?. may DLSU..NU at FEU pa po! tyka dba sabi ng ateneo nung nka sunod sunod na tatlong talo may sinabi ba cla na gusto nila mag champion?.. ang mga fans lng nmn nag sasabi na GO FOR 6peat.. khet 2nd or 3rd place ok na un skanila.. hindi nmn cla nag expect na mag chachampion cla kc they know na may mas better na team this season .. kaya wag kayo mag salita na parang ADMU LNG ANG GUSTO MAG CHAMPION ALL TEAMS WANTS TO BE AT THE TOP!! ISIP MUNA BAGO SALITA HA!

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    1. ayusin mo rin subj-verb agreement mo bago mag caps

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  35. so kapag hindi nireklamo within 48 hours, ok lang mabreak ang rules? ganyan ba yan? sobrang lala na ng politics sa UAAP. Lipat nlng ulit Ateneo sa NCAA, sobrang kalokohan na tong UAAP na to dahil sa board.

    "I broke the rules!" "Ops, 49 hours have passed, lusot na ako!" UAAP Board - wag kayo bobo please

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    1. LOL...pinoy na pinoy ang ugali....alam ng may deadline hindi pa papansinin dahil feeling entitled.

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  36. It's funny how Palou is able to muddle the issue and cause so much confusion. Coach Bo got confused and so with a lot of people.

    Stick with the real issue, not the rationalization nor the justifications. Was Coach Bo at the venue? If he was then the rule is clear. This is the only clear issue. The players issues are more for litigation, since "immediate vicinity" has to be clearly defined. What is clear to me is that venue security sit in the immediate vicinity of the bench, behind to be exact.

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    1. Ateneo justifies a mistake with another mistake. If may mali. Just admit it. Bumaba tuloy tingin ko sa mga atenista. Stupid stupid move.

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  37. "Meanwhile, another board member said Ateneo's motion to probe the presence of other suspended players during games this season - particulary of UE’s Charles Mammie and Lord Casajeros, FEU’s Garcia, and De La Salle’s Thomas Torres - cannot be granted as there is a 48-hour grace period for the filing of protests."

    ^^^ That 48 hour grace period is a joke. That's BS! Just because nobody filed a protest doesn't mean that there was no violation!! 48-hour grace period? So pag hindi nahuli ng dapat huhuli, okay lang magbreak ng rule basta walang nagreklamo? Aba, kaya may mga Napoles sa mundo eh.

    Read: http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/possibility-of-replay-raised-as-uaap-board-weighs-merits-of-ue-ateneo-motions

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    1. Ateneo clearly exemplifies the negative attitude of filipinos. Kung pababa na. Gusto rin idamay un ibaba pababa. Hence. Ayaw magpalamang!

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    2. if you bothered to read and understand the rules.....the non-filing of a protest is a de facto acceptance.

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  38. Why can't "the Ateneo" accept that they violated the rule??

    Instead they would look at others to evade violation..tsk tsk

    Is that what the Jesuits are teaching their students??

    If you ask me, Ricky Palou typifies the true Atenean!!

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    1. Sino kaya itong hindi pumasa sa ACET? Very irresponsible in making general statements without even knowing the context and the gravity of the situation. And so, I will return the favor to you (and forgive me) by rebuffing you with an irresponsible comment.

      Annyway, Ateneo did not file this as a protest. Please understand Mr. Ricky Palou's letter! Ultimately, what is being questioned is not the violation of two people last Sunday but UAAP's rules and its enforcement, and that being the case, there should be no "48 hour" rule statute of limitation applied here.If the other schools have integrity as well, then they should not even consider the 48 hour rule and consider themselves guilty as well and accept as well the consequences. The problem with them is that they have no morals.
      We won the game! A hard fought battle by our Blue Eagles! then you UE will suddenly protest?? Well I believe sir Ricky got fed up and said, "Ok, so we violated a rule huh?? Look at the other teams, and UE did violate a rule too, but the bottom line is we won the game!" Because of this desperate move by UE, it takes away the credit of coach Sandy and the rest of the staff for doing a job well done, and most importantly the Blue Eagles' win. It was a hard fought battle, a win which our blue eagles dedicated to coach Bo, to the whole Ateneo community, heck we even dedicated the win to those who wanted to see us fail! And most importantly, we won in honor and as a birthday present to our Patroness, Mother Mary. Mary, for you! OBF! AMDG!

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    2. I agree! Grabeh. Sobrang bumaba tingin ko sa ateneo! Kelangan tlg maghukay ng mga madadamay? Haha! Pathetic!!!

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    3. Ang nagsimula naman ng lahat ng gulong ito ay si bo perasol

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    4. UE, La Salle, FEU and NU should own up to the violations too. And most of all, the Commissioner's office and the UAAP Board should apologize for not implementing the rule strictly since the start of season (and probably in past seasons too). See where the "clarification" leads to?

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    5. Well said. Win or lose (either inside the court, or by some other, and may I add less honorable, means)it's the school we choose!!! One Big Fight!!!

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    6. You think Mama Mary would be happy with what you just have said...or with what Palou and the other Ateneans are displaying. Basketball? Mama Mary? Ateneans? She is for the whole world and everyone who believes in her.

      You and everyone else like you could have responded in a more Mama Mary-like fashion, if you really wanted to honor her.

      Did coach Bo dedicate his aggressive behavior towards the DLSU fan to Mama Mary too? Geezums!

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  39. Kaya pala madaming politiko na atenista eh, magagaling magturo. What a loser.

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    1. ang tanga mo. d lahat ng taga ateneo politioo. mas pinahihiya mo ang school sa comments mo.

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    2. Di ko gets. So ano point mo?

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  40. Wastohin naman ang pag-gamit ng mga konseptong hiniram sa batas, huwag kala-kalahati.

    Itong ideya ng prescription ay importante sapagkat kailangan may stability. Bukod doon, hindi dapat pinagaaksayahan ng panahon sa mga tinolugan ang kanilang karapatan.

    Iba't-iba ang prescriptive periods ng mga kasalanan, kumporme sa bigat, for the sake of justice. Sa mga maliliit na infractions, maiksi lang ito. Sa mga mabibigat na pagkakasala, mas mahaba. Sa makatuwid, hindi maaaring ireklamo ang pagkakaroon ng prescriptive period ng isang klase ng infraction sa kadahilang ang iba ay halos wala nito. Kung hindi nai-file ni piskal ang libel sa loob ng nakatakdang panahon, wala ng pagkakataon ang Estado para ipalitis ito. Sa kabilang banda, kung ang pagkakasala ay rape, murder o kung ano-ano pang mabibigat na krimen, mas matagal na panahon ang binibigay sa Estado. Fair lang 'di ba, lalo pa sa panig ng biktima?

    Magkaiba ang timbang ng violation ng suspension rules sa mga sala tulad ng eligibility rules violations. Ang huli ay napakabigat kaya kahit nagtapos na ang season, nae-entertain pa ito. Hindi kawalan ng hustisya kung ang violation ng suspension rules ay may 48-hour prescriptive period lang. Mababaw lang ito. Dapat nga baguhin ang penalty. Napakabigat ng one game forfeiture. Ano ba ang napakasamang ginawa ni Coach Bo? Mala prohibita lang 'yun. Sa akin lang, puwede sana itong iapela ng Ateneo. Siyempre, kung mapatawan ng nakasaad na parusa, tanggapin na lang din ng may dangal at huwag ng gumawa ng ingay. Tutal, kahit mag 0-14 ang Blue Eagles, Ateneo is still Ateneo. Magkakandarapa parin ang mga matatalino at mayayaman na makapasok doon.

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  41. bulok ang mga eskwelahan nyo ADMU,AdU,NU,UP,DLSU,FEU,UE,UST... ang papangit ng mga ugali nyo mga gunggong buti nalang kami mababait, GO STI!!!

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    1. Sino bulok na ugali ulit? the irony of your comment is all over the place.

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  42. What is fair since so many schools violated the rule on suspension is to let the basketball players decide the championship on the court, and not let self-interested board members do it. Violations cancel one another out. Status quo. Play on!

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